Alyson Lex 0:00
In today's episode, we're answering the question, How do I actually create a course out of the knowledge I already have? The big question is this as entrepreneurs, coaches, and business owners, how do we consistently sell our products, programs, and services without making our customers feel like we're only in it for the almighty dollar? How do we serve the way we know we're meant to serve and still run a profitable business? How do we put good into the world while we put dollars into our pockets? How do we change the lives of our community while also bettering the life we lead? It's not a zero-sum game.

Jennie Wright 0:37
It's not an either or scenario, it is possible to thrive while serving your clients to the best of your ability. This podcast will show you how. I'm Jennie Wright. I'm Alyson Lex, and welcome to the System to THRIVE.

Alyson Lex 0:52
Courses are the hottest thing right now. And more people are online now more than ever. Thanks, COVID. And there is more of an audience for everything because of it. And there's a good reason for that. See, when you create a course you can impact a lot of people and scale your business in a way that doesn't require you to work 24 seven, it also allows you to meet your audience at those different price points that Jenny and I have talked about over and over again in a bunch of episodes in the past, if they can afford to work with you one on one or in a done for you capacity, or with your premium program, they can purchase a do it yourself course and do it themselves.

Jennie Wright 1:36
Yes, which is exactly what I love. So I'm going to caveat this episode by saying that there is a little bit of renovation happening somewhere and a unit somewhere nearby me. And if you can hear a little bit of weird noise in the background, I apologize. But I can't, I can't make it stop

Alyson Lex 1:55
my microphone a couple times, and we'll call.

Jennie Wright 2:00
Alright, so creating a course is more than just storing content into a spreadsheet, calling it a day, trust me, I know I created a course it was it was really interesting to do, thank goodness, I had Allison and other resources and my partner to help me out with it. But if you want customers to get real results. And if you want to be able to take the knowledge that you currently have, and turn it into something that actually will help other people, you have to structure it in such a way that the information will allow them to not only consume it, but then implement it. And you have to make sure that there's some sort of a transformation at the end of it that they receive. How are you going to do this? And honestly, how the heck are you going to know that the stuff that you already have or the knowledge that you have, can work its way into a course and just work? So this is where the tap method comes in. And tap is definitely an acronym. Allison loves her acronyms Do

Alyson Lex 2:51
you do so much?

Jennie Wright 2:52
And this is something that Allison created and it's literally so freaking smart. It makes a ton of sense. It demystifies the whole How do I create a course. And she's going to take the reins in a sec, and she's going to walk you through her entire process. And I'm going to act as you. So I'm going to I'm going to be your champions today. And I'm going to ask the questions that I know that the listeners would want to ask to get the most out of this. So Allison, with the tap method,

Alyson Lex 3:19
Okay, so first, thank you for doing that. Because I get so excited when I teach stuff like this, it's a super simple way to really make sure you're delivering that actual transformation, which is super important when you want a successful product or a successful course. So tap stands for teach, assign and provide. And it's your process for anything that you deliver inside of a course, or even a coaching program or anything like that. So the first thing you're going to do is you're going to teach your thing, it sounds really simple. But there are some things that I want to talk about throughout. Okay, the first thing is you want to teach to a transformation, you need to think about what steps they need to take to get to that desired result. So if you have a course, for instance, about how to create great copy, I would think what Where is my ideal client starting? Where do they want to end up? And what steps do they need to take along the way to get there? How many steps could be eight could be 12, could be 45. Write down all the steps. That's the first thing you need to do when it comes to figuring out what to teach.

Jennie Wright 4:34
And does it and again I'm going to act as the listeners advocate here having already built a course myself.

Alyson Lex 4:40
And yeah, she knows what she's doing.

Jennie Wright 4:41
Yeah, well, you kind of think but at the same time, it'll every time I try and create one I always have that nail bite moment of holy, you know, Holy moly, how am I going to do this? And also, Allison, I want you to touch on. There's people who really don't think think that the stuff that they teach creates any transformation. So they have that soul like that imposter syndrome thing, where they're not even sure that the stuff that they are actually sharing with people, helps people. So how would somebody like that? Or how would somebody who's not, you know, I mean, this all sounds real good. But how do we know how to write that content down? Or how do we know what those steps are how to recreate them.

Alyson Lex 5:21
So when I say the word transformation, I don't want you to think Cinderella's Fairy Godmother turning rags to a ball gown. We're not talking about that. Okay, it could be something as simple as helping people lose five pounds, whatever transformation you deliver, is really where they are now and where they want to be. And you may help them get halfway there, you may help them get 100% of the way there. But whatever it is, you have the ability to deliver that transformation. So I get imposter syndrome. I understand it wholeheartedly because I've lived with it just about every single day. And yet, here I am, with my own podcast took me forever by the way to start my own podcast with Jennie, because I didn't think that I had enough to say that people would want to listen to me all the time. So I was going to be a guest on other people's platforms. But if you allow yourself if you push yourself outside of your comfort zone, just as baby step, every single day, in a year, in six months, you're going to look back in that comfort zone is going to be way in the rearview. So don't think that just because you're going to step outside your comfort zone. Again, we're not talking major stuff here. One little step outside do something today, that's a little uncomfortable. And tomorrow, do something that's a little bit more uncomfortable, like an exercise program.

Jennie Wright 6:50
Sure. You might go ahead. No, no, it's what I want to sort of rain into is, there's different types of courses, right. So there's a couple different ways that people can use this, this method that you're talking about. So some courses cheat, like if they're like little mini micro courses, right. And the transformation that you're creating is something really, really small. Perfect. And that's, you know that there's a course for that there's the big mack daddy Signature Course, which is the huge transformational courses. And then there's sort of the, you know, the middle of the road one, which is you're creating additional transformation, you're creating some like some, some pretty good transformation in what they're trying to achieve. But it is not your signature program. It's not your 12 steps. Right,

Alyson Lex 7:35
exactly. And that really speaks to what we said earlier about the different price points. And this, this, the tap method, if you will, applies to all of it doesn't matter whether it's a $27 tiny product now, or a 20 $700 group coaching, or a $27,000, one on one consulting agreement for a year, it doesn't matter. Because this is how people internalize and work information. This is education stuff was an education major, like I learned this.

Jennie Wright 8:13
Sure. So it doesn't matter what we're trying to say that is it doesn't matter what type of course you're trying to create. If you use the tap method of teach, assign and provide, then your students will achieve their like, they'll have some sort of achievement in it. And they'll feel like they got value. Because there's a really big, there's a real big disparity between people who buy courses, and people who finish them. Yes. And our goal is to get them to finish them. Because if they finish them, then we've got raving fans, and we've got people who said, Wow, I took this course it was really, really good. And it really helped me versus, you know, people who buy a course and then never touch it. And then you don't have those people saying, wow, this is really great. You know, I learned, I had to learn the hard way that I front loaded my course with so much stuff that people got overwhelmed really, really quickly. And then I had to pull back. Yeah, right. And that's a big problem with with courses and programs that don't have the right resources and things like that built in. And that resource can also be time.

Alyson Lex 9:15
Correct? Exactly. When it comes to group coaching programs. I've been a member of someone it's like, okay, we're gonna do like six months worth of business building in 12 weeks. And that's overwhelming. And it's a full time job now. Correct. So, you know, that's actually a really good point, when it comes to putting your stuff together. Think about the time and effort and energy that it's going to require on the part of your student, your customer, your client, to actually do the stuff you're telling them to do. Yeah,

Jennie Wright 9:46
yeah, that's huge to take into consideration. Huge for sure.

Alyson Lex 9:50
So the next thing I want to talk about is, again, we're still in teach the different learning modes that people have, and because not everybody learns Well, the same way. And so if you want your course to resonate with the widest variety of people, and actually help them implement, then including resources, including teaching that meets each one of those learning modes is really important. There are some people who prefer to learn by listening. They probably you're one of them, because you're listening to this podcast. Now, I love listening to podcasts. But I typically listen to them at first, if I'm on the go, to kind of screen them and decide if I want to listen to them more in depth later. Because I do not learn by listening, I cannot retain the information as well. My husband will try and read me a news article. And I'm like, babe, I just need I just need to, like, I'm not picking up what you're putting down at all.

Jennie Wright 10:51
Yeah, and if you're like me, I listen to podcasts when I'm on the go. So I'm not retaining the information. The only way I was able to do that last year when I was doing these huge 12 kilometer walks per day crazy, is I would actually text myself whilst I was listening, because I'm walking, you know, like to six kilometers from my house. And I would text myself as I go, going, you know, bullet point, bullet point bullet point, while I was listening to the podcast, because I'm not listening to podcasts as I sit at my desk. That's just not me. Right?

Alyson Lex 11:21
Right. And now I think you'll even message me, you'll be like, Hey, I heard this on a podcast and I get a little over my notes person now. Yeah, all my notes. Evernote beyond now it's Allison Allison. Yep. So audio is a fantastic way to deliver content. Another way to deliver content is video. And this is actually really cool, because you can record a video, and then strip the audio from it and offer both options for people who want to sit and watch people who want to listen on the go. Both of those require that your person is an auditory learner. And that's okay. But if you can also get that audio transcribed and cleaned up and put into some kind of guide or manual, then you're gonna reach the people who are like me, I'm a skimmer. I'm a reader, I read incredibly fast, I can actually read faster than I can hear. That's just who I am. And so it would take me less time to consume your content in written form than it would for me to consume it in audio form. And even if I could learn that way,

Jennie Wright 12:26
totally, and I'm the same way, and doesn't it frustrate you? When you're listening to something you're like, get to the point, like, come on, like you're, you're you're eager to actually get to the thing? Absolutely.

Alyson Lex 12:37
Yeah, I was always the kid. In school, they used to make the class read out loud, like a paragraph at a time per person. Seriously, can I just read the book, please? I know,

Jennie Wright 12:50
kiff, just give it to me, just give it to me. I just

Alyson Lex 12:52
want to read it. And I understand why they did that. Because and this is another education ism. Because it encouraged us, it actually incorporated the skill of public speaking into, for instance, in English or a science class. So I get that. But if you can provide a written way of learning your content, you're going to reach the widest number of people, because now you'll have a video from there, you stripped the audio from there, you create the transcription, cleaned it up a little bit. And you now have three different learning modes to meet all of the needs of your people. The additional benefit to that is that it beefs up the value.

Jennie Wright 13:34
Exactly, I was just going to say it beefs up the value so it really, it really hits home that you know, you're adding, you're adding some really good quality in there. That's absolutely when I was at Glaser, Kennedy, we had transcripts of every product we had,

Alyson Lex 13:49
every single one, it beefed up the value, we were able to offer the CDs, DVDs and the manuals. Okay, so then the last part is how to organize what you're teaching. So again, you want to go step by step by step, you don't want to give them step five before you give them step one. So when you're coming up with your process for achieving that transformation, make sure that you really are going from start to finish in order. That's just the one thing that I wanted to make sure that I let you know about.

Jennie Wright 14:23
No, it's the right way to go.

Alyson Lex 14:24
Okay, so now that we've taught them, it's time to assign them something, you're gonna give them homework, you're going to give them something to do that will give them something tangible by the time they're done with their time with you. This could be some kind of workbook, could be sheets, it could be spreadsheets, it could be tracking, it can be, but you want to assign them something. And the reason is, is it creates a smaller goal within the larger goal. Okay, Jenny earlier mentioned that with her course because things were front loaded. People got over whelmed and that's one reason for drop off. But the other reason is boredom and demotivation. If it takes your people too long to get to their goal, they're gonna drop off. If you can give them smaller goals throughout their time with you, or throughout their time with the course, if it's a DIY type of thing, they're gonna stick with it, because they've met little mini goals.

Jennie Wright 15:27
Yeah. And on top of that, I just thought of something that when you give people homework, because I hated homework, but who didn't? When you give people homework, it also helps them to internalize and process the information that they're receiving. Yes, so they're now internalizing that. So when I was in when I was in high school, in university, especially in university, the way that I took I was liberal arts all the way down to, you know, history, I loved history, geography, the history of geography. drool, love that, okay, sorry. Total drool. But when I was taking English Lit, and everything like that, one of the things that I had to do to try and internalize like, Listen, I was I was reading Beowulf, okay, to internalize Beowulf, what I would do is I would actually take notes, and write it on pieces of paper over and over and over again, my notes so that I would internalize the story of Beowulf, because it's a huge freaking epic poem, right? It's this huge thing. And, um, I think giving people homework helps. And depending on the software that you use to deliver your course of result that I noticed that I think was interesting. And this was something that you helped me with, was the fact that I could actually create the homework in the core software that I was using. And the core software would tell me if they did it,

Alyson Lex 16:48
which was really cool. It allows you to track the progress. And what you can do there is see where the drop off might be happening, and fix it if it's a problem spot. The other thing that homework does is it actually speaks to the fourth learning mode that I didn't talk about in the teach section, which is learning by doing. Okay, so there's learning by hearing watching, reading, and doing when you assign the homework, they do something. And it internalizes it. Just like Jenny said, when I was in school, in college, because high school, I was not a great student, but in college, I was. And I would take my scribble Scrabble notes during class, and then my study session was actually rewriting them with color coded highlights and different pens and all neat. Really, yeah, sort of guy. Well, yeah, because that's, I mean, twinsies total. But that was my learning. By doing so I would read and write, read and write, read and write. And that's how I got on the Dean's list every semester. So that's the kind of result that your people will get when they have to do homework because it will help them learn by doing. Another thing and Jenny mentioned this lightly, we'll dive into it for another. Another. Second is it gives them accountability. to one thing to have information at your fingertips, it's another thing to actually use that information. I know exactly what exercises I should be doing, and what food I should not be eating. And yet, losing five pounds is difficult because I don't have accountability. I don't have anybody saying, Alison, that brownie is probably not the best idea. Right? So it keeps them accountable. It keeps them moving forward, it keeps them engaged in what you're doing. And when Jenny created her course, that was something that was really important. There was accountability, checkpoints throughout, there were lives there were coaching, there was a Facebook group, all of this accountability built in plus the homework. So as you can see, homework is more than just fill out this worksheet. It's send it back to me, I'll take a look at it. And I'll make sure you're on track.

Jennie Wright 19:09
Sure. And the homework can be also things like post a video in the Facebook group. Yes, you know, or write this out, pop it in the group like things like that different, different things, right. So you got to get you can get really, really creative with the homework stuff, depending on what your course is about.

Alyson Lex 19:25
I've seen and these are like free challenges where it's a visibility thing. Okay, go live, tag me in the comments. And so now I know that you've gone live, we're friends on Facebook or Instagram or whatever, we're connected. And you're tagging me you're doing your homework. And then what this also does a sign is really important. This also gives you the opportunity for additional coaching. You can see where there might be issues. You can help them be successful, you can gently steer them Back in the correct direction. Okay, let's let's go back to the weight loss thing I've maybe I've made a food journal for my my weight loss coach. And she sees brownie on there. And she says, okay, Allison, I get it. You want the chocolate? Why don't you get this recipe for low calorie brownies. And you know, she can gently steer me, she can give me feedback, she can put me in a better direction, she can help me personalize my experience. Those are all the things that homework can help your people. Do you have to assign homework?

Jennie Wright 20:33
Absolutely. I'm so glad that I did. Because it also showed me where the disparities were. And it allowed me to the original course got updated. And it allowed Yeah, for sure. And it showed me It showed me where the the drop off areas were and where people were having issue. And it allowed me to improve the course. Yes,

Alyson Lex 20:54
a lot. And the last thing, pardon me is the P, the provide. This is another area that Jenny really improved her course. And I see a lot of opportunity and other courses as well. You're going to provide resources to help them complete. The assignment is to complete the teaching to complete all of the information that you've given them. This is really, really important. They're doing something new. They're coming to you because they don't know how to get this done on their own. They don't know where to start. And having the resources helps give them some structure helps give them a next step. Right, they came to you for those structures and those next steps. And one of the biggest complaints that I hear from my clients about courses or coaching they've taken is I felt like I left with more questions than I came in with.

Jennie Wright 21:53
Oh, yeah, yes. Mm hmm.

Alyson Lex 21:55
I know what to do. But I don't know how to get it done.

Jennie Wright 22:01
That's the majority.

Alyson Lex 22:02
Mm hmm. And a lot of people come to me, they say my coach told me I need a copy. I don't even know what I need. Really, I'm happy to coach you through that. If you're in that kind of situation, give me a call, we'll have a consult, I will coach you through a copy you need. Because it can be overwhelming when you're like, Okay, you've told me to have this copy written. But I don't know what copy I need. I don't have a list. I don't have I don't know who to get to write it. I don't know how to write copy, what do I do? So now you've told me to do something and I have 16 questions about it. And there was no answer. Whereas a better result would be maybe have a copy expert come in for a training. Again, if you have a course and you tell them they need copy, call me will come in for a training. If you have a course and you tell them they need to build a list called Jenny, she trains to Yeah,

Jennie Wright 22:53
what I like about what you're talking about here, from the listeners point of view is if you're building out your course, and you've done the teach, you know, you've written down what you're going to teach, you're you've already written down what you're going to assign, it becomes something where you now need to figure out what are the natural next questions that come out as a result?

Alyson Lex 23:15
And I think I think

Jennie Wright 23:17
there's two ways to go with that. Is it Allison, that you create the resources, you provide the resources that answer those next questions? Or is it that you know, that, you know, the next step is actually a different course. Right, right. I think that's I think that's a really good way to look at it. creating those resources that, you know, definitely help people figure out what the next step is going to be.

Alyson Lex 23:45
Yes, you want to help them and we talked about this a little bit when we had our bonus sandwich episode. I think that was episode number eight. We talked about making sure that they have the next step. This is actually before that. So with the bonus sandwich, you're helping them get ready for your course and helping them be successful afterward. But we want to actually help them achieve the things that you've laid out in the teach section. You want to give them what information, what links, what recommendations, what additional training, what can you add in, that's gonna fill those gaps like Jenny was saying. So one of my previous clients is has created a course. And she knew she wanted a copy element in there. And so she reached out to me to do a training. And I did a training and it's in the course, like that's part of it. I had another client who had a program, a group coaching program, and he knew he wanted a copy component and he hired me to come in and do copy For his students,

Jennie Wright 25:02
I had you come in and do copy.

Alyson Lex 25:04
I mean, yes, yes, really. I was a guest expert. I did training, I did extra resource videos, because she and she would message me she'd say, awesome. everybody's asking about this. And I would shoot a five minute video.

Jennie Wright 25:20
And those five to make sure you were like, amazing. They were changing. They were wonderful, because it answered, it answered very quickly the question that people were having Mm hmm. That was a barrier to their next step. So really, that's why I think and I love this whole provide section, this is probably my favorite part. Because this is the part that I this is the part where I have fun. She does Oh, my, how many videos did we do together for that? 116 116 different videos? Yeah. So we're talking about the challenge blueprint course, that I launched on how to create and launch a successful challenge. And the course actually started out as a baby course was supposed to be a little baby course. And

Alyson Lex 26:01
included not end up that way. Oh, hell no.

Jennie Wright 26:04
It grew and grew and grew and grew. Why is there 113 videos, because the end, they're not like 15 minute videos, these are like 712 13 minute videos. These are how tos. And you know, on top of that, I made a resource library, knowing that I would use the resource library at a different time. And so there's a whole bunch of components in there, and a whole bunch of videos to satisfy the questions that were coming up, because the same question was coming up over and over and over again. And instead of having this repetition, I decided I would shoot a five or 10 minute video, and then I threw it up in the course, because the great part about when I launched this course, was that it was I was doing it live. And I was refining and defining the content kind of well is going which is great. I had the structure. But you know, this is part of that says Honestly, it was using the tap method in real time, trying to make sure that they had the right information. So

Alyson Lex 27:03
and by adding in those little quick videos, they could say, I've got planes flying overhead. So Jenny's got drilling, I've got planes, this is a good episode, audio. It's just a heads up. So I'm in a flight, apparently, I'm in a flight path between my local airport and a military base, and they just fly overhead all the time. That's, by the way, oh, my goodness, it's all the time. Just my kid loves it. He's like, planes, planes. But so they could say, Okay, I have a question about XYZ, and then they can go find that exact resource that they needed to answer that question for them. Now, videos, were not the only resource that you provided. You did some checklists, checklists are amazing. I would love for half of my clients to have a copy checklist from their coach of what copy they need to do this. XYZ, that would make so much sense how much I mean, how great would it be if somebody could be like, here's my copy checklist. Can you do that? Yes. I haven't yet seen one at all.

Jennie Wright 28:12
No, client, right now we're working with a client where we're actually we're doing the copy, and I'm doing the implementation. And we've had to comb through it. Now somebody else is teaching. This is the weirdest part, the person who is teaching how to do this thing that we're doing, or we're doing for the client is charging multiple thousands of dollars, and has not provided a copy checklist, we are having to manually comb through the funnel, to pull out what we need to decide what needs to be done in terms of copy and implementation.

Alyson Lex 28:45
Exactly. So. And what that does, guys is it gives your clients, your students, your customers, whatever you call them. It gives them this feeling of incompleteness

Jennie Wright 28:57
and stress,

Alyson Lex 28:58
and it stresses them out. Exactly. And they think I paid how much for this, and I didn't even get all the answers I needed. That is a big disconnect. And it's gonna keep your people from wanting to buy your next thing. So we talked about being able to meet people at their different price points. But the goal, of course, is to increase the lifetime value of that customer. And the best way to do that is by upselling them into something else. If they're dissatisfied with the completeness of the information they've already purchased from you, what's the likelihood of them purchasing something else? incredibly low. Exactly. So even if we put aside the goal of your course to being to create this transformation, even if we put aside the fact that you shouldn't be putting something Have an out there that you're not proud of and stand behind and actually gets the results you say they'll get, even if we put all of that part aside that authenticity and, and standing in integrity stuff and just look at the money, it still makes sense to give them a sense of completeness at the end of it. Yes, give them to software and tech recommendations. And then give them a little training video on how to get started. Or find the videos that those tech companies put out in their knowledge base and organize it for people. You don't have to do it. If I'm telling you to go use Active Campaign, I can go come through active campaigns knowledge base, and give you the links to the videos on how to get going. It's an Allison created resource, but not really an Allison curated resource. Yeah, there's a difference. So you know, think about what you can do to really help them answer all the questions they're going to have as you go through each of your pieces of the teach. And as the pieces of the Assign. Can they complete this homework with the knowledge I've already given them? If not, what do they need to know? That's what you need to provide? The tap method?

Jennie Wright 31:20
No, I love it. And the we all know that the goal of the course is obviously to create some transformation. I think the tap methods great, I have a I have a follow up question for you. Mm hmm. How long does it How long will it take for me to write out? Or to discern what I need to do under each one of them? I'm just in the process of writing up my next course, let's just say Mm hmm. How do I write this out? How long is it going to take me? This is probably how long is this process? Um,

Alyson Lex 31:48
so it could take you half an hour? It could take you three days. It could take you a month. Okay, and so that is my non answer answer. But really, I would like for you to start big. I'm going to cover bam, bam, bam, and then go back and fill it in, and then go back and fill it in. So you know, I'm going to teach the, you know, the five components of a sales letter, and then I'm going to go back and I'm going to teach within each of those five, and then I'm going to go back and I'm going to say here's your homework for each of those five, and then I'm going to go back and I'm going to fill in what resources you need. And by the end of it, I now have my big outline. As you know, Jenny, because you are, we're big fans of outlines here at System to THRIVE.

Jennie Wright 32:39
Oh, I love that outline love them. We just actually spent this past weekend cleaning up our insane amount of information, which we're constantly updating, so that it was a little bit more organized. And we literally five minutes before we recorded this podcast, we were deciding where we're, you know, where was our new outline going to be? Because we've decided to, we've decided to change it the podcast a little bit, which by the time you listened to this episode, you will have already seen some of the changes, which is cool. I love that. So Alison, I want to I want to talk about the download the resource that we're giving people in our provide,

Alyson Lex 33:21
what is it? So you Well, you actually kind of led me into it while by talking about how to plan everything out. And because we love outlines so much we are going to give you guys an outline template to help guide you through creating the components of your next course. So it's going to help you kind of break out what you teach. It's going to help you answer we figure out brainstorm those questions that people are going to have. It's going to help you come up with assignments, it's going to help you do all of that, as well as brainstorm all those resources and how you can answer those. So it's really cool. I can't believe I haven't shown it to you yet.

Jennie Wright 34:10
No, I love it. And on top of that if people also need help with this, you can also reach out to Allison and I help. So this would be where you go to System to thrive.com forward slash thrive plan on our website and come and book a call with us because Alison and I have actually done this bundling loads and loads of times with our clients, we can actually help you figure this out if this is the stumbling block for you. And you want to build out a course. So go to System to thrive.com forward slash thrive plan we'll put that in the resource section for you as well. We also mentioned episode eight today, which is really cool because that was the bonus sandwich temp

Alyson Lex 34:48
episode which I loved

Jennie Wright 34:50
was such a good episode. So you want to check that one out as well. And then also to get the download for today's episode you want to go to System to thrive.com forward slash to zero the numeral 20. So go check that out System to thrive.com forward slash 20. You can get the outline template. It's sounds really great

Alyson Lex 35:12
yet, but it's gonna knock your socks off.

Jennie Wright 35:16
Ah, yep, I'm good with that. So just to reiterate, like to summarize this, the tap method to really help you guys outline and create and transform people's lives through creating online courses, online courses. You know, if you go look up the gift, so hot right now, they are insanely hot. Get yourself a course if you can, if it fits for your audience, if it makes sense. And something that you want to do create a course that satisfies their needs answers their question keeps them coming back for more and more. And I think this is a fantastic, fantastic resource for people to actually do. And, yeah, I think it works really well. So thank you, everybody, for listening to today's show. Make sure that you are subscribed to the podcast wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, COMM And subscribe to ours. And if you haven't already left us a comment or a review for the podcast, please consider doing so. By doing that you actually help us get in front of more people just like you who need the help, we can provide them. And it also helps us feel pretty good about the body

Alyson Lex 36:19
feel really good. That's that's the reason I'm all about it. It's just it's a good boost for the ego. But it does

Jennie Wright 36:26
help get us in front of more people. So really appreciate it. Thanks, everybody for listening, and we'll be back again with another big question. Thanks again for watching or listening to this podcast. We hope we've answered some of your big questions today. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast anywhere you're listening and leave us a review.

Alyson Lex 36:44
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